By Dave Andrusko
Yesterday National Right to Life called what was shown on the fourth undercover video released by The Center for Medical Progress (CMP) “sickening and deplorable.”
While NRLC President Carol Tobias was specifically referencing Dr. Savita Ginde when she talked about the “chirpy nonchalance with which these Planned Parenthood executives talk about dismembering and pricing unborn children is both sickening and deplorable,” she was also alluding to what we saw take place on the video and the equally astounding remarks from others at the Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains (PPRM).
Here are just a few not only of Dr. Ginde’s (the clinic’s vice president and medical director) jaw-dropping statements, but of others. After we list those, we’ll look at the very careful way Dr. Ginde talked about what PPRM was doing.
As they pick and probe the baby’s remains, we hear comments about having located “a leg,” “a foot,” a “heart” even “eyeballs.”
Later, out of the blue Dr. Ginde says, “It’s a baby.”
“Baby”?
Near the end Dr. Ginde and a medical assistant are teasing out tiny fetal organs. “Here’s some organs for you,” Dr. Ginde says, “they’re all attached. Here’s a stomach, kidney, heart, adrenal….”
Dissecting the remains of a 12-week-old unborn baby, a Planned Parenthood medical assistant announces: “Another boy!”
Dr. Ginde says, “I know I’ve seen livers, I’ve seen stomachs, I’ve seen plenty of neural [brain] tissue. Usually you can see the whole brain usually come out.” (My emphasis.)
The two undercover investigators tell Dr. Ginde they are looking for intact organs. Dr. Ginde says that most of the second-trimester abortions they perform are “D&Es,” a dismemberment method that usually does not produce “intact” specimens. But “usually” doesn’t mean never.
“Sometimes, if we get, if someone delivers before we are able to see them for a procedure, then we are intact” (“we” meaning the baby’s organs).
How else do they get intact thymuses, livers, lungs, hearts?
Dr. Ginde tells the “buyers” about establishing a “baseline of how things are being extracted now and see if we could do a little work with them to maybe be a little more gentle,” in order to preserve the desired organs in good condition.
“Gentle”?
And, then, at the end of the video, the undercover investigator talks about how there had been brain tissue in this 12-week baby, but it had been “blasted out” with water.
“Well you know a lot of times, especially with the 2nd tris [second trimester], we won’t even put water because it’s so big you can just put your hand in and pick up the parts,” Dr. Ginde says.
There is this slight pause. “So I don’t think it would be as war-torn.”
The “buyer” responds: “War-torn?” Then, he says, “Oh dear.”
But it was just the cold-blooded observations that Dr. Ginde and others make that are worth remembering as the scandal continues to roil the political waters. In its analysis yesterday, NRLC noted that
In several passages Dr. Ginde appears to be acting on a belief that some of the activities under discussion are problematic from a legal standpoint or with respect to public relations, or both. For example, she advises those who she thinks represent an organ-vending firm, “Because if you have someone in a really anti-[abortion] state that is going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught.”
What she says is very, very carefully couched. What does the allusions to the “layers” PPFA lawyers are providing their practice of extracting intact organs actually mean? And if everything is so up and up, why are “layers” needed at all?
You will find several other posts today, addressing a few more of the ramifications of what is revealed and hinted at in the four CMP videos.